Tutoral on filling out a Form 4: AKA: How to start Stamp Collecting!

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  1. rjrivero
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    I posted this information on a different forum, but I thought it might be of interest here for someone who is interested in getting a Silencer or other NFA Firearm. I hope someone will find this information helpful and useful. Generally you would choose which NFA Item you want, pay for it, and have it held at your dealer while the paperwork clears. You can see you need the ACTUAL SERIAL NUMBER from that item before you can submit the Form 4. We would be happy to help you choose the right suppressor for your needs at Adco Firearms in Sylvania, OH. Adco Firearms LLC AR-15, M16, M4 Carbine Gear, Parts, Accessories.
    Filling out a Form 4 as an Individual:I'm not saying this is THE ONLY way to fill them out and get them approved, but this is how I have filled them out for my suppressors, and I've never had them delayed due to paperwork errors. I AM NOT A LAWYER. This is the example of how I filled out my Form 4's. Your Class 3 dealer will no doubt be able to help you through this, but for those who are really itching to go quiet, this is my contribution to the community. For reference, A class 3 dealer is one who has paid the Special Occupational Tax in order to deal Title II or NFA Firearms. Proper terminology is to refer to the firearms themselves as Title II firearms or NFA Firearms. Class III firearms don't exist. Class III is the FFL dealer tax category, NOT a firearm type.

    You must first print off a Form 5320.4 commonly called "Form 4".

    You can download it HERE.

    It's pretty easy to fill out but I promised a tutoral, so here it is:
    Form 5320.4
    Box 1: Check $200 Box.

    Box 2a: Your name, address, City, State, Zip
    Box 2b: Your County.

    Box 3a: Your Dealer's Name, address, City, State, Zip
    Box 3b: Your Dealer's Phone number (Include area code)

    Box 3c: Usually left BLANK.
    Box 3d: Usually left Blank.

    Box 4a: Silencer's Manufacturer's Name, City, St
    Box 4b: "Silencer"
    box 4c: Caliber of the silencer. No matter if it's NATO, Metric, or Imperial. I have some that don't even have units of measure on them.
    Box 4d: Model of silencer (Stamped on the side of the silencer)
    Box 4e: "Not Applicable" or "NA"
    Box 4f: Overall length of the suppressor itself. If you have a thread adapter or Linear Decoupler or Nielson Device, do not include it in the length of the suppressor. Just the suppressor itself. All of mine are in x.xx inches.
    Box 4g: Serial number as it appears on the suppressor. Keep spaces or dashes as they appear on the suppressor.
    Box 4h: Leave Blank.

    Box 5. If you have no FFL, "NA" in each box. If you do, provide the info here.

    Box 6a. EIN of your FFL if you have one. "NA" if you don't.
    Box 6b. Class of your FFL if you have one. "NA" If you don't.

    Box 7. FFL of your Class 3 dealer.

    Box 8. EIN of your Class 3 Dealer.
    Box 9. "3 NFA DEALER." (To get a suppressor, you have to go through a class 3 dealer.
    Box 10. Signature of your FFL.
    Box 11. Printed name of your FFL, and TITLE (i.e. Owner.)
    Box 12. Date Mon dd, year (Format the ATF Uses.) Sep 02, 2011 for example
    Box 13. a-f Answer each question.
    Box 14. a-3 Answer each question.

    Box 15: Line 1 Your name as it appears in Box 2a
    Box 15: Line 2 "All Legal Purposes"
    Box 15 Line 3 Blank.
    Box 15 Line 4 Your Signature
    Box 15 Line 4 Date (Format ATF uses MON DD, YEAR Sep 02, 2011 for example.

    Box 16 your Passport size frontal photo. Attach with a Glue Stick.

    Box 17: Line 1 Fill out your name as it appears in Box 2a.

    Then your Chief Law enforcement officer needs to sign, date, and provide the address, county, and phone number. You will also need fingerprints done at this time.

    You must fill out a form 5330.20 "Certification of Compliance" FOUND HERE. Most of us will fill out Boxes 1,2,3 and sign and date box 7.

    Box 1 and 2 are the same as it appears in Box 2a of your Form 4.

    You must get Fingerprint Cards FBI Forms FD-258. Can't download these because of the stock of paper they are printed on. Call the ATF and they'll send them to you.

    Pitfalls to avoid:
    Each Form 4 needs to be filled out on ONE SHEET OF PAPER FRONT AND BACK.

    Your Form 4 needs to be mailed in duplicate. TWO COPIES EACH WITH ORIGINAL IN INK SIGNATURES. So fill it out first, then copy, then sign each form. Then each form needs to be signed by your CLEO.

    You need to include a check for $200 Made out to the "National Firearms Act Branch, BATFE"

    You can make one check out for multiple items.

    Mail out checklist:
    [ ]1. Form 5320.4 in DUPLICATE (2 forms)
    [ ]2. Fingerprint Cards FBI Form FD258 (Two of them.)
    [ ]3. Certification of Compliance. Form 5330.20
    [ ]4. Check for $200 per item.

    Mail them to the address on the top right of the form. It should read:
    National Firearms Act Branch Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, P.O. Box 530298 Atlanta, GA 30353-0298

    (Some of the older forms still have the Chicago, IL address. DO NOT SEND THESE THERE. You can still use those forms, though.)

    Once your check clears, you can call them periodically to get an update on your status. Have your serial number ready. Phone number is: (304) 616-4500
     
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  2. rjrivero
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    Form 4 for Trust/LLC/Corp.

    There are some simple changes that need to be made to do a Trust/LLC/Corp. I included this post to reflect those differences. Again, this is how the Form 4's are filled out for items that I have gotten approved. This does not imply the ONLY or CORRECT way to do the forms. I am NOT A LAWYER. This is an example of how I got my Form 4's approved. Again, your FFL/SOT will *probably* help you fill out the forum. I post this for reference.

    You must first print off a Form 5320.4 commonly called "Form 4".
    You can download it HERE.

    Form 5320.4
    Box 1: Check $200 Box.

    Box 2a: Trust/LLC/Corp Name, address, City, State, Zip
    Box 2b: Trust/LLC/Corp County.

    Box 3a: Your Dealer's Name, address, City, State, Zip
    Box 3b: Your Dealer's Phone number (Include area code)
    Box 3c: Usually left BLANK.
    Box 3d: Usually left Blank.

    Box 4a: Silencer's Manufacturer's Name, City, St
    Box 4b: "Silencer"
    box 4c: Caliber of the silencer. No matter if it's NATO, Metric, or Imperial. I have some that don't even have units of measure on them.
    Box 4d: Model of silencer (Stamped on the side of the silencer)
    Box 4e: "Not Applicable" or "NA"
    Box 4f: Overall length of the suppressor itself. If you have a thread adapter or Linear Decoupler or Nielson Device, do not include it in the length of the suppressor. Just the suppressor itself. All of mine are in x.xx inches.
    Box 4g: Serial number as it appears on the suppressor. Keep spaces or dashes as they appear on the suppressor.
    Box 4h: Leave Blank.

    Box 5. If you have no FFL, "NA" in each box. If you do, provide the info here.

    Box 6a. EIN of your FFL if you have one. "NA" if you don't.
    Box 6b. Class of your FFL if you have one. "NA" If you don't.

    Box 7. FFL of your Class 3 dealer.

    Box 8. EIN of your Class 3 Dealer.

    Box 9. "3 NFA DEALER." (To get a suppressor, you have to go through a class 3 dealer.

    Box 10. Signature of your FFL.

    Box 11. Printed name of your FFL, and TITLE (i.e. Owner.)

    Box 12. Date Mon dd, year (Format the ATF Uses.) Sep 02, 2011 for example

    Box 13. a-f Not necessary for Trust/LLC/CORP. Answer each question if you wish.

    Box 14. a-3 Not necessary for Trust/LLC/CORP. Answer each question if you wish.

    Box 15: Line 1 Trust/LLC/Corp Name as it appears in Box 2a
    Box 15: Line 2 "All Legal Purposes"
    Box 15 Line 3 Blank.
    Box 15 Line 4 Your Signature, Print Title as it appears on your TRUST/LLC/Corp
    Box 15 Line 4 Date (Format ATF uses MON DD, YEAR Sep 02, 2011 for example.

    Box 16: Leave Blank

    Box 17:Leave Blank.
    Then your Chief Law enforcement officer does NOT need to sign off on a TRUST/LLC/CORP application.

    Form 5330.20 "Certification of Compliance" FOUND HERE. Is not needed for TRUST/LLC/CORP.

    Fingerprint Cards FBI Forms FD-258 are not needed for TRUST/LLC/CORP applications.

    Pitfalls to avoid:
    Each Form 4 needs to be filled out on ONE SHEET OF PAPER FRONT AND BACK.
    Your Form 4 needs to be mailed in duplicate. TWO COPIES EACH WITH ORIGINAL IN INK SIGNATURES. So fill it out first, then copy, then sign each form.
    You need to include a check for $200 Made out to the "National Firearms Act Branch, BATFE"
    You can make one check out for multiple items.

    Mail out checklist:
    [ ]1. Form 5320.4 in DUPLICATE (2 forms)
    [ ]2. TRUST: Full Trust including Schedule A
    [ ]3. LLC/CORP: Certifcate from state.
    [ ]4. Check for $200 per item.
    Mail them to the address on the top right of the form. It should read:
    National Firearms Act Branch Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, P.O. Box 530298 Atlanta, GA 30353-0298
    (Some of the older forms still have the Chicago, IL address. DO NOT SEND THESE THERE. You can still use those forms, though.)
    Once your check clears, you can call them periodically to get an update on your status. Have your serial number ready. Phone number is: (304) 616-4500
     
  3. Re: Form 4 for Trust/LLC/Corp.

    WOW! Thank you so very much for these posts. Very nice write up! :bow:
     

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