We on the pro-2nd Amendment, and actually the pro-Constitution side, seem not to be able to fight back. Logic does not work time to use their arguments against them. Christopher Dorner, was trained by the LA Police dept. He has now Murdered 3 people, 1 a police officer. Wounded 2 other police officers. The LA Police have wounded 2 women with no warning firing into their pickup. How many other police officers have been convicted of felonies just in 2012? We have had cops who have killed their wives, who have taken bribes, and commited felonies. Just a small percentage overall. The Military is going to have a percentage of bad people, so too the cops just as in society. It is time to ban assualt police or at least the weapons they can use against the populace. No more than 7 rounds, no more high powered weapons. We need to restict their ability to harm citizens, they should only be going after criminals, since the new gun bans would get assualt weapons off the street the police can then go out un-armed, if we save just one innocent citizen from being shot by mistake it would be worth it. We need to start in California, shut down all police stations and send the cops home. Think of how many lives would be saved. No deaths in police car chases, no shootings into the wrong car, no hunter killer assualt cops on the loose. They did nothing to stop Christopher Dorner, they should have seen his behavior, he was a fired cop he should have been monitored day and night. He posted on Facebook, if an average citizen posts on facebook about possibly shooting someone they are "talked to quick" Our authorities failed to act and are now reacting. How many more must die.